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Subject: Winsock Application FAQ Available




The latest version of the Winsock Application FAQ / List is available
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Craig Larsen

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In <[e-mail]>, John Junod writes:
>   Not implementing PASV will make your server inaccessible to people
>behind these internet router based firewall.  A quickly growing number
>of organizations are starting to use them.
This will certainly be the case for our site once our IP Internet access is
in place.  Anyone who would want to run FTP locally, rather than at our
firewall, would have to use a client that supports PASV.
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Mark Fisher                            Thomson Consumer Electronics
[e-mail]           Indianapolis, IN

"Just as you should not underestimate the bandwidth of a station wagon
traveling 65 mph filled with 8mm tapes, you should not overestimate
the bandwidth of FTP by mail."
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In article <[e-mail]> [e-mail] (Mark Clouden)
writes:
> I couldn't agree more. Although I just recently hooked into the net and
> therefore, alt.winsock, it seems that the primary focus is winsock utility

> availability, what is winsock, and hey - How about that latest Mosaic?
You could also subscribe to the winsock-hackers mailing list, at request
address "[e-mail]".  As an example, the hot
topic there of late has been the proper time to post or not post FD_CLOSE
messages when a closesocket() is performed.  (I read winsock-hackers, but I
can't profess to always understand the subtleties of all arguments presented
therein.)

Personally, I read both lists, as I mainly provide WinSock application
support, but sometimes need to answer questions based on the underpinnings
of WinSock.
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Mark Fisher                            Thomson Consumer Electronics
[e-mail]           Indianapolis, IN

"Just as you should not underestimate the bandwidth of a station wagon
traveling 65 mph filled with 8mm tapes, you should not overestimate
the bandwidth of FTP by mail."
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Peter Tattum's Trumpet Applications (iwork.zip) contains HLOOK.EXE, which
does DNS lookup of IP addresses given names, and vice versa.  Very handy for
our internal use (just TRY giving all your PCs new IP addresses during a
move...!).
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Mark Fisher                            Thomson Consumer Electronics
[e-mail]           Indianapolis, IN

"Just as you should not underestimate the bandwidth of a station wagon
traveling 65 mph filled with 8mm tapes, you should not overestimate
the bandwidth of FTP by mail."
From [e-mail] Wed May 11 10:44:59 1994
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Subject: RE: WSGOPHER (CONT.)

ALSO, it only seems to print if you are using print manager.
gmklass
From [e-mail] Wed May 11 10:45:02 1994
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Subject: Tattam Trumpet WinSock will be Windows Sockets 1.1 compliant?

Hello all,

I currently use Version 1.0a of Tattam's Trumpet WinSock.  Unfortunately, it
is not Windows Sockets 1.1 compliant (at least I haven't been able to get 1.1
apps to work with it).  Is a new version planned?

Thanks.

Rob.

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From [e-mail] Wed May 11 12:57:31 1994
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Subject: Re: Mosaic over Chameleon stack?

In article <[e-mail]> [e-mail] (brian.c.hammer) writes:

>Subject says it all, I just made Chameleon work after using Trumpet for some
>time. Now Mosaic fails on DNS lookup. Trumpet News, TrumpTel, WS_FTP all seem
>OK. Anyone with anything to share? All responses appreciated.

What versions of Chameleon and Mosaic are you using?  I was having this problem
a while back but with the current versions of each (Chameleon v4.00.4 and
Mosaic v2.0a4) everything is working fine.

Doug

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From [e-mail] Wed May 11 10:45:06 1994
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Subject: RE: WSGOPHER

WSgopher works great for me.  - on a 386 zenith with 5 meg.

I was really impressed.  Somehow it found my paint shop pro program to display
gifs before I specified any viewers, with no program specified in the external
viewers .cnf file.  How did it do this?

 It seems faster than Hgopher and has a nice set of preset
bookmarks.  I only wish it would display the bookmarks the way Hgopher does.
As it is(I think) you have to go to edit bookmarks, find the bookmark, fetch,
and then close the bookmark window. With Hgpher this is just two clicks.

 Some of the buttons are not obvious - I couldn't figure out what the eagle
claw was for (actually it's roots, for root directory), the clipboard button
looks like a suitcase.

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From [e-mail] Sun May 11 13:01:15 1994
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Subject: Re: Reccomend wfw?

In article <[e-mail]>, David A Wolfe <[e-mail]> wrote:
>Every time I go to a MS dog and pony show, from which I just returned, I get
>the impulse to install the WFW add-on.
>I seen much bandwidth on the subject here. Thh ??? is, is there a faq?
>I have winsock 10b. eudoa, winqvt, trumpet bewsreader, wingopher, cello and
>mosaic, and Novell 3.11 fairly stable. I would hate to screw things up.
>Is there a consensus?

I installed the add-on the other day, and it went in relatively easily.
I'm using Chameleon 4, Mosaic, and NetWare 3.11 with the VLM requester.
The only thing I had to adjust after installing the WFW add-on was the
default ethernet protocol, which was somehow changed during the process.
I was able to do this through the "Network Setup" Windows program, rather
than editing my net.cfg, which I thought was kind of nice.

I've only had WFW running for a couple of days, and so far the only
quirk I've found is that my local printer port (not the NetWare ones)
is no longer working from DOS when I load my network drivers.  It still
works for Windows programs, though.

All the winsock stuff works fine.

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From [e-mail] Sun May 11 14:01:39 1994
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Subject: Re: Newbie winsock programmer seeks compiler

In article <[e-mail]>, [e-mail] (Nick Leverton) writes:
|> I want to port an existing sockets application to Windows/Winsock. I'm
|> an experienced DOS/Unix C programmer, and am moderately au fait with
|> sockets, but am new to Windows programming.
|>
|> What compiler would the panel recommend that I buy which:
|> a) is cheap

Nothing!

|> b) is cheap

Unless you mean 'cheap by UN*X standards'

|> c) can support Winsock

Any compiler that can generate code that can access DLLs
will support Winsock, and any compiler that doesn't isn't
a usable Windows dev system.

|> d) is cheap
|> e) has some kind of natty application template builder wizard sort of thing,
|>    to ease the pain of writing a snazzy GUI type interface to the app

Visual C++ offers reasonable GUI building capabilities

|> f) is cheap

But costs ~UKP300

|> g) works reasonably fast and doesn't need 100MB of disk space

And eats disk space -- anything with libraries and online help will

|> h) is cheap

I didn't say this, but Microsoft let you upgrade air. VC++ v2.0 comes
out soon, and Microsoft will, if past experience is anything to go by,
offer an upgrade somewhere around UKP100. The 'proof of purchase' needed
to upgrade tends to be along the lines of: fax us the cover of the manual,
a picture of the disk, a GIF of Bill Gates, a copy of Software Toolworks
C/80, etc, etc.

|> i) doesn't really need zillions of C++ class libraries, because I don't
|>    anticipate having to write code which needs them in the near future

But you do if you want (e). Windows programming is inherently object-oriented,
and trying to do OO programming in a non-OO language is unnecesarily difficult.
The class libraries do a good job on the whole, and are fast becoming the
standard API for Windows (e.g. toolbars are in VC++, not the Windows API).

Richard Parratt
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Subject: Re: Win Mosaic alpha 4 (my fix)

In <[e-mail]> [e-mail] (Piet Beertema) writes:

>VLIDE.SYS and its Windows companion VLIDE.386 most likely do the
>same and give real performance improvement. However, VLIDE.386 is
>*not* compatible with WfWG's 32-bit file access. Using VLIDE.SYS
>under DOS and *wdctrl under WfWG gives you the best of two worlds.

Is this available free? If so, where?
I'm pretty sure the Drive Rocket costs money. Correct?
Archie for "vlide" produced nothing.

Thanks,
Jules.
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Subject: Windows Sockets 1.1 compliant program

Greetings,

I've written a windows network communication program with PC-NFS
programmer's toolkit 4.0 and Borland C++ 3.1.

I need help to make my program to be winsock 1.1 compliant.  Any idea
how to do it?

Ben Lui